Guest Speaker

November 2008

What is hate speech? Who defines it? Who decides if it should be punished or not? An Australian, Frederick Toben, has been arrested in London as German courts seek his extradition. In Germany, he has been accused of Holocaust denial, a crime that could inspire others to reawaken Nazism. He and his supporters, like David Irving and the Lib-Dem MP, Chris Huhne, say he should not face his accusers in Germany because Holocaust denial is a question of freedom of expression. In Los Angeles, two British citizens, Simon Sheppard and Stephen Whittle, are also in police custody. They were convicted this summer by Leeds Crown Court of publishing anti-Semitic and racist material. They skipped bail and flew to the US hoping that the authorities there would defend their right to freedom of expression.

There is a separate question of whether courts in one country can ask for the extradition of people to reply to accusations over crimes that may not be considered as such in the original country. The European Arrest Warrant allowed one of the 7/7 accused terrorists to be sent speedily back from Rome. By contrast, before the EAW was introduced in 2003, an Algerian Islamist, Rachid Ramda, accused of financing the 1995 Paris Metro bombing, was able to resist extradition from Britain to France for 10 years before being returned in 2005. He is now serving a life sentence.

However, there is not a settled liberal view on crimes like Holocaust denial. British libel laws are notorious for attacking free expression. Equally, British tabloids destroy families through invasions of privacy merely to boost circulation. Each democracy has its own interpretation of where the boundaries of absolute free expression lie. Even in the US, there is no right to cry "Fire" in a crowded theatre. Britain's race-relation laws going back to earlier public-order acts do not allow speech and publications that stir up hate against black or other ethnic minority citizens.

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TDK
November 3rd, 2008
1:11 PM
You have failed to address the issue. A law passed by country A is broken not in that country but in a second country B. The "law breaker" travels to country C who must then extradite them to A. Let's agree that Saudi has the right to imprison people who insult Mohammed. Should we extradite Danish cartoonists who are foolish enough to travel to our shores. Should the president of Iran travel to our country, should we arrest and extradite him to Germany. It seems to me that the result of David Irvings failure to win his libel case does far more to expose the nonsense of Holocaust denial than denying free speech. Germany already has an active extreme right movement. The fact that they cannot pass a certain threshold in support owes more to their ideas being ridiculed than this silly law.

Yeshr Avman
November 8th, 2008
3:11 AM
I find it very revealing of somebody who deems to change their name, rants on and on about the Shoah, actively participated in Marxist-anarchist organisations, foments greater European integration, and yet, despite representing a constituency with a large proportion of Muhammadans, fails to mention the tacit support of Islamic organisations of all stripes for the criminalisation of free speech. Yes, very revaling indeed...

MV
November 10th, 2008
11:11 AM
People should be aware that Mr MacShane led a committee that had to report on anti-Semitism. The Report (signed off by MacShane) defines as anti-Semitic any incident "perceived" to be so by the Jewish community. Such idiocy is what we have come to expect from the likes of DM. Still, I suppose it all helps DM to stifle people who disagree with him. Given that he takes all the usual morally degenerate positions (many doubtless shared by his mindless inhumanist "partner" Joan Smith) it seems that any sane man has a duty to disagree with and oppose such a man. Still, he loves Israel and apparently dislikes Russia and Christianity - so Bekhor will welcome him.

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